i am so angry - i've been a long term lurker here and an occasional poster but i have just got to offload tonight.
mom and i have never been 'in the truth' but my dad and 2 brothers are.
tonight my dad told me that last night he resigned as an elder (which for me personally is great) but the reason is that because both my parents have health issues, especially mom, my dad has been given 6 months to get his act together and put some more hours in field service as he is 'not leading by example'.
Dear Neverin,
Wow! Thats horrible! I am sorry you have been through so much! Hang in there. In the long run even though it is painful now, he may be more willing to see things for what they really are if he isn't in the thick of it anymore!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
i see this site gets thousands of postings every day .. from literally thousands of members, mostly ex-dubs, from all over the world.. rather than simply go on moaning and whinging about the big nasty org why don't you all put your efforts into something positive ... do something.. ok - the org is evil .. but it exists ... and simply whining on about it doesn't change that.
with your efforts directed at something positive, you could do wonders for .
.for anything you choose.. hundreds of real charities could do with your support - to help the really needy .
By posting here we ARE doing SOMETHING!! MANY are seeing things for what they truely are!! Personally this site and the ones who post here have been a tremendous support for my family and friends. Wether the posters here realized it or not! Things are posted that help us help our loved ones OUT!! Most here have loved ones still in. And everyday they are in, they are at risk for ending up in a life threatening situation. Because of their lack of knowledge, they may take a stand for a policy that may change at any given time. Then how do we get our loved ones back?? What they decide once they have ALL the facts is up to them. However 99% of witnesses don't know the facts. And so, it is out of love for them and our Creator, we want to help them! Besides being a great place to find data, it is also VERY theraputic to talk with someone who share many of the same feelings and experiences. Many don't have anyone else to lean except the friends they have found here. Just because someone is posting here DOES NOT MEAN that they aren't doing volunteer work or contributing to some other cause. I think it is insulting and presumptuous to make such statements!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
yeee haaa!
i'm an outlaw now!
the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!
Dear Dan,
Just finished listening to the tapes! WOW! You did a really great job especially sitting infront of 7 people!! These tapes are SO...much clearer than the others. I am sure your lawyer will be glad they came in so clear! So whats next?? Did they tell you what they were going to do?? I think we all know by now! Anyhow, GREAT JOB!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
ok, sorry about this but i'm in tears and just need to absolutely vent..... i am so tired of being invisible, of not existing to people that have said they love me, to people who i've known for years.. i had to find out from the stupid newspaper that a family friend died from her battle w/ breast cancer.. just this week i finally get in contact with someone who had stopped going to the meetings 10 years ago and now that she's back... guess what ... that's right ... i hate this religion.
yes i am depressed today.
everything a person has built in a life time is just ripped away.
Dear Black Swan,
(((((HUGS)))))) (((((HUGS))))) ((((((HUGS)))))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is horrible!! I am so sorry for the loss of your friend. Hang in there! I wish you peace of heart, love and comfort for you during this difficult time. Were here for you!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
funeral discourse .
remarks regarding the deceased (use any that apply and are appropriate.
(note: instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
Dear What-a-Coincidence,
Thank you for this post! I sent it to several family members. My family was CRUSHED at the talk given for my Grandfather who died last spring. My Dad timed how long they actually talked about his Father. Just under 5 minutes!!! The ENTIRE rest of the time was spent, just like this outline shows, giving a "talk". We really felt like they were preaching at all of the family who was no longer in ther organization. I felt lke we were at a "meeting", not a memorial. We were all disgusted! My cousins sat there shaking their heads with disgust! Basically all the Elder did was read the obituary!!! It was especially AMAZING because we all made a point to talk with my (Witness) Grandmother ahead of time before she met with the Elder giving the talk, asking her to please make sure he really TALKED about Grandpa and his life! She assured us she would. My Grandfather was a colorful, loving person,known for making people laugh with all his stories. At family get togethers, we would always end up gathered around his chair for a hour or two of good laughs as he recalled his youth and all the crazy things he and his brothers did while growing up! With his front gold tooth just a gleeming. It would have been so heartwarming to hear them tell all about those times. But NO! They had one AGENDA! And it still is VERY painful to think it could of been so different. Anyway, Thank you for your post.
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
the "bible teach" book, on p.89 says:millions of people have been killed in wars during the past century.
one british historian wrote: "the 20th century was the most murderous in recorded history...it was a century of almost unbroken war, with few and brief periods without organised and armed conflict somewhere.
" a report from the worldwatch institute states: "three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century ad to 1899.
Dear M.J.,
Thank you for this post!!! This again will be most helpful!! I am going to one day organise all the print offs I have made from posts like yours and organize it in a binder with tabs, under different subjects. That way I can take it ANYWHERE and show ANYONE whatever is needed for the situation! This is just one more arrow in the quiver! Did they even quote WHO the Brittish historian was? So we can double check this quote?? Notice the brackets in the lower half of the post. I bet thats not really in the quote AT ALL!! When ever there is brackets BEWARE!!! Anyhow, thanks again!
Sincerely,
Lady Liberty
yeee haaa!
i'm an outlaw now!
the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!
O My goodness Dan!!
He even posed for you!! Can't wait to listen, O I mean IGNORE those tapes!!!
Lady Liberty
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you don't need a weather man.
to know which way the wind blows .
HOLY COW!!
Lady Liberty
imagine, you are tom cruise/chruch of scientology publicist.
you have a public relations problem - the public thinks tom & his group are wacked out, cult members.. then, tom cruise says to a reporter that he's ready to eat the placenta of his new child after it births.. lol!
this really helps the church of scientology/tom's next movie's popularity.. i realize that today's fathers don't want to wait in a waiting room with a cigar.
She said she wanted it for her birthing classes and that some people eat it. You know I was fine with it all until the eating it was said. I puked right there. The thought of eating the placenta did not sound right to me, I mean c'mon who in their right mind would eat human guts or any guts as far as that goes.
I swear I had nightmares afterwards for a long time thinking about people who eat other peoples guts...LOL
LOLOLOLOLO I cannot BELIEVE these stories!!!! How SICK!!!
Lady Liberty
imagine, you are tom cruise/chruch of scientology publicist.
you have a public relations problem - the public thinks tom & his group are wacked out, cult members.. then, tom cruise says to a reporter that he's ready to eat the placenta of his new child after it births.. lol!
this really helps the church of scientology/tom's next movie's popularity.. i realize that today's fathers don't want to wait in a waiting room with a cigar.
Lady Liberty
